nikamd
05-13 08:31 AM
I am in the same boat. Current from March.........but nothing yet....:(:(:(:(:(:(
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paragpujara
10-14 10:19 PM
Friend of mine got her DL renewed for 1 yr based on EAD as her h1b extension is not approved yet.DMV ppl look at her EAD and renewed her DL for 1 yr without any questions. So i guess you are fine with yr DL extension for 1 yr. As per my understanding and some of the posts , i think you won't loose yr H1b status as you are not using EAD for employment. And answer to yr last question is my frd got her DL renewed in VA only. She got it at DMV on Gallows Road, VA (it's in Fairfax,VA). Hope this helps.
My DL is going to be expired in Nov and I have H1 stamped till Jan 08. I received EAD till Sep 08. I am planning to go to DMV to renew the DL. I will be carrying EAD and Passport (with H1b stamp). Please note that I have not applied H1B extn so far. I have following questions:
1) Will I get my DL extended till Jan 08 (based on H1b) or Sep 08 (based on EAD)?
2) If they extend DL based on EAD, will I loose H1 status as I used EAD?
3) I live in VA, can someone pls share his/her experience in this regard ?
Thanks
My DL is going to be expired in Nov and I have H1 stamped till Jan 08. I received EAD till Sep 08. I am planning to go to DMV to renew the DL. I will be carrying EAD and Passport (with H1b stamp). Please note that I have not applied H1B extn so far. I have following questions:
1) Will I get my DL extended till Jan 08 (based on H1b) or Sep 08 (based on EAD)?
2) If they extend DL based on EAD, will I loose H1 status as I used EAD?
3) I live in VA, can someone pls share his/her experience in this regard ?
Thanks
paskal
08-14 03:53 PM
with this tension i m jusst going to end up with piles. then paskal will have to look at my piles :(
not that kind of a physician..not on your life pal :p
another thread, another poll. guys all this is already being discussed in so many threads...yes including the esteemed MR WILLIAMS.
there is a thread opening up for every mailroom chap in USCIS
Please stop this. it's not helping anybody. use the multitude of threads that exist and keep this stuff together. otherwise any info you hope to gather is going to be too fragmented anyway...
not that kind of a physician..not on your life pal :p
another thread, another poll. guys all this is already being discussed in so many threads...yes including the esteemed MR WILLIAMS.
there is a thread opening up for every mailroom chap in USCIS
Please stop this. it's not helping anybody. use the multitude of threads that exist and keep this stuff together. otherwise any info you hope to gather is going to be too fragmented anyway...
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anilsal
11-06 10:09 PM
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Arvin_H1
08-19 02:33 PM
If you reappeal I think until the decision comes you are okay. But I'm
not sure if you can work. Need to check with an attorney.
If your job description need to match the degree you should be fine.
Did you submit a credential evaluation? I think if both of the above
things are okay, you should be through.
If I were you I will contact an attorney, like Sheela or Rajiv who
knows what they are doing.
babu
Thank you all for your advices.
As this is my H1 extension, my credential evaluation done with first H1 process itself. and, my I-94 also expired in Sept'07.
Does anyone know any good attorney that i can contact and take more suggestions on my issue..?
not sure if you can work. Need to check with an attorney.
If your job description need to match the degree you should be fine.
Did you submit a credential evaluation? I think if both of the above
things are okay, you should be through.
If I were you I will contact an attorney, like Sheela or Rajiv who
knows what they are doing.
babu
Thank you all for your advices.
As this is my H1 extension, my credential evaluation done with first H1 process itself. and, my I-94 also expired in Sept'07.
Does anyone know any good attorney that i can contact and take more suggestions on my issue..?
bagha
07-11 11:01 AM
I'm in similar situation:
On H1 with company A since 2001. Current extension is valid till July 2010.
Eb3-India I-140 Approved, Filed I-485 more than 180 days ago.
Now I want to transfer my H1B using AC21. My questions are:
1. If my current employer revokes I-140 what are the implications on my I-485? Since 180 days have been passed I think it's not a problem.
2. If I don't get my green card til my new H1B (after transfer) expires, do I get another extension even if company A revokes my I-140?
Thanks in advance.
On H1 with company A since 2001. Current extension is valid till July 2010.
Eb3-India I-140 Approved, Filed I-485 more than 180 days ago.
Now I want to transfer my H1B using AC21. My questions are:
1. If my current employer revokes I-140 what are the implications on my I-485? Since 180 days have been passed I think it's not a problem.
2. If I don't get my green card til my new H1B (after transfer) expires, do I get another extension even if company A revokes my I-140?
Thanks in advance.
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glus
01-02 10:05 AM
Hi All,
Here is my case , when i went to f1 - h1-b stamping in mexico, they issued me 221-g & asked me to got to india for stamping..( but they allowed me to enter usa)..later i applied for AP & EAD, got both ( recently i got i-140 query)
(RFE due date Mar10)
Here are my doubts:
1. can i go to india & comeback with AP in hand
2. Do i need to wait for my i-140 approval
3. my question is what if my i -140 rejects ??
Appreciate your feedback..
Thanks!!!!!
I would say the safest way would be to get I140 approved first. If I140 is denied, your I485 is in most cases denied at the same time, and then you become illegal if you are in the U.S. after entering on AP.
Here is my case , when i went to f1 - h1-b stamping in mexico, they issued me 221-g & asked me to got to india for stamping..( but they allowed me to enter usa)..later i applied for AP & EAD, got both ( recently i got i-140 query)
(RFE due date Mar10)
Here are my doubts:
1. can i go to india & comeback with AP in hand
2. Do i need to wait for my i-140 approval
3. my question is what if my i -140 rejects ??
Appreciate your feedback..
Thanks!!!!!
I would say the safest way would be to get I140 approved first. If I140 is denied, your I485 is in most cases denied at the same time, and then you become illegal if you are in the U.S. after entering on AP.
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pappu
12-20 01:43 PM
Instead i will donate the travel expenses to IV...........
Good Luck Every one
Thanks.
Pls contribute for the campaign we are running
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=2630&page=16
Good Luck Every one
Thanks.
Pls contribute for the campaign we are running
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=2630&page=16
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freedom1
01-19 04:19 PM
Hi to all,
This morning I received the e-mail message below.
Does this means that an approval letter has been sent to me?
Has anyone received such an e-mail?
Thanks,
Freedom1.
-----------------------------------------------------------
Application Type: I485, APPLICATION FOR STATUS AS A PERMANENT RESIDENT
Current Status: Document OTHER THAN CARD manufactured and mailed.
On January 19, 2007, we mailed the document we manufactured based on our earlier approval of this case, and mailed it to the address on we have on file. You should receive the new document within 30 days. If you do not, or if you move before you get it, call customer service.
This morning I received the e-mail message below.
Does this means that an approval letter has been sent to me?
Has anyone received such an e-mail?
Thanks,
Freedom1.
-----------------------------------------------------------
Application Type: I485, APPLICATION FOR STATUS AS A PERMANENT RESIDENT
Current Status: Document OTHER THAN CARD manufactured and mailed.
On January 19, 2007, we mailed the document we manufactured based on our earlier approval of this case, and mailed it to the address on we have on file. You should receive the new document within 30 days. If you do not, or if you move before you get it, call customer service.
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gcdreamer05
08-05 04:44 PM
I know this is not a good question as there is no time frame for GC process?
But please share your experience;
How many years it could take to get GC if it is started with in Aug. 2008 for
-EB2 category
-EB3 category
I am trying to understand the time (years) difference between two process.
Thanks,
Sanjeev.
Instead of asking such questions, go ahead first and file something as soon as you can, because there are other people who are filing in EB1, 2,3, family based etc etc etc... while you are just posting....
Always eb2 better than eb3, some of my friends who filed in 2002 eb3 have still not got GC, if you file in 2008 may be you will get it in 2015-2016... wow a long time.......
But please share your experience;
How many years it could take to get GC if it is started with in Aug. 2008 for
-EB2 category
-EB3 category
I am trying to understand the time (years) difference between two process.
Thanks,
Sanjeev.
Instead of asking such questions, go ahead first and file something as soon as you can, because there are other people who are filing in EB1, 2,3, family based etc etc etc... while you are just posting....
Always eb2 better than eb3, some of my friends who filed in 2002 eb3 have still not got GC, if you file in 2008 may be you will get it in 2015-2016... wow a long time.......
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rbashir
09-01 09:18 AM
I am sorry for posting it multiple times, but I do really need some guidance, and some information I am hoping somebody may help me in my RFE.
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dealsboy
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Do we have to worry about expired I 94 if we are using EAD ?
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Radhika
07-01 08:22 PM
Mostly of the people just think its just giving the annonymous name,phone numbers and getting the benefit of the decision .Please read these point and understand carefully before jumping.
Please be aware, though, that USCIS is likely to examine plaintiffs� adjustment of status applications more closely than it otherwise might. It may ask the plaintiffs questions and ask for additional information about their adjustment applications or immigration status. See below regarding �discovery.�
http://www.murthy.com/current485/VisaBulletinFAQ6-29-07.pdf
Let them ask questions and many as RFEs. why to worry we are here as legal Immigrants. I am ready to take the pain which is far better. and it si best way to make them realize.
Please be aware, though, that USCIS is likely to examine plaintiffs� adjustment of status applications more closely than it otherwise might. It may ask the plaintiffs questions and ask for additional information about their adjustment applications or immigration status. See below regarding �discovery.�
http://www.murthy.com/current485/VisaBulletinFAQ6-29-07.pdf
Let them ask questions and many as RFEs. why to worry we are here as legal Immigrants. I am ready to take the pain which is far better. and it si best way to make them realize.
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indianabacklog
04-17 09:18 AM
Are interviews instant or do you typically have to wait for a date? A petition approval is not an approval to work, correct? Sorry, I am just learning the process. Is there a link on here that shows how it should be done?
BTW, this person was here on an L1 for another company up until December 07 in US, went home for vacation for a month, sent in paperwork for L1A under new company since current visa lapsed, came back early to US on VW(green form) and then waited here for his new L1 petition to approve - while working. He thinks that this is ok. :eek:
Thanks again!
Interviews are definitely NOT instant. You have to book ahead and fill the respective embassy forms, pay the fee and take necessary documentation to the interview. The approval notice does allow one to work but in order to enter the country to start the job you need a visa in your passport.
This last message you posted poses another question. You can only get an L visa with a company if you have worked for them for one year outside of the US. How does a person file for a new L1 for a NEW company when they have been working on a previous L visa with that company. The company do the filing anyway since L's are employment based visas.
This whole story is getting more curious.
BTW, this person was here on an L1 for another company up until December 07 in US, went home for vacation for a month, sent in paperwork for L1A under new company since current visa lapsed, came back early to US on VW(green form) and then waited here for his new L1 petition to approve - while working. He thinks that this is ok. :eek:
Thanks again!
Interviews are definitely NOT instant. You have to book ahead and fill the respective embassy forms, pay the fee and take necessary documentation to the interview. The approval notice does allow one to work but in order to enter the country to start the job you need a visa in your passport.
This last message you posted poses another question. You can only get an L visa with a company if you have worked for them for one year outside of the US. How does a person file for a new L1 for a NEW company when they have been working on a previous L visa with that company. The company do the filing anyway since L's are employment based visas.
This whole story is getting more curious.
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skv
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Yes pretty much looks OK but I wont be comfortable if this is format your parents will use. For close relative this format is fine.
For parents I am not comfortable with the statement "and that________father�s name) is his/her father and _____________ (mother�s name) is his/her mother."
So just dig a little and there were members who have posted the sample for parents and close relative.
Go to this link for format http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=5036&page=7
Affidavit does not have a unique format identified by INS, hence different attorneys may have different layouts.
For parents I am not comfortable with the statement "and that________father�s name) is his/her father and _____________ (mother�s name) is his/her mother."
So just dig a little and there were members who have posted the sample for parents and close relative.
Go to this link for format http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=5036&page=7
Affidavit does not have a unique format identified by INS, hence different attorneys may have different layouts.
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sobers
06-16 10:03 PM
The only reason why the House hasn't given in on CIRA is because of the incessant pressure of restrictionists such as NUmbersUSA activists. Look at how active they are. Granted one has to be a Citizen to vote, but the first amendment gives us ALL the right to free speech and express ourselves. That is why IV is legal, and that is why the least we can do is a webfax campaign regarding Skilled Immigration (SKIL bill) AND show up at local meetings with Congressman.
Believe me, if we don't speak up, no one is going to do it for us. People like me with 02 priority dates are going to wait atleast two more years, folks who filed in 05 may get to wait 5+ years for their GC. This is the way things look currently.
The Illegals like the Chamber of Commerce, the big lobby Ag, Hotel/Travel, Construction, Meat-Packing, Industries, the Catholic Church and big ethic lobbies like MALDEF, La Raza, besides millions of hispanic votes.
The other side also has the power of millions of votes and a LOUD VOICE.
We have nothing compared to them. You can see we are small fish...that is why we need to do all we can to make ourselves heard.
=========
From: Roy Beck <ImmigrationInfo@numbersusa.com> Add to Address Book
Date: 2006/06/09 Fri PM 02:15:30 EDT
Subject: Time to turn up the heat on Congress
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From: Roy Beck, President, NumbersUSA
Date: Friday 9JUN06 9:30 a.m. EDT
Please take some actions today .... and prepare for many more actions next week
DEAR SUPPORTERS OF LOWER OVERALL IMMIGRATION,
Thanks to all of you who -- in the two weeks since the Senate voted for a massive immigration increase and amnesty -- have been regularly checking your Action Buffet for new actions and who have been responding to the several Fax Alerts that we have sent you.
Now, it is time to really start turning up the heat again.
I'm asking each one of you to do at least one of the following TODAY.
Members of Congress are feeling great pressure from our side, but we must really escalate that pressure if we are to totally block all the immigration increases in the Senate bill. Thus far, the Republican majority in the House of Representatives has stood firm against the national Republican Party leaders and President Bush. We have a lot of hope that the House can hold the line against the amnesty/open borders plan of President Bush, the Republican National Committee and nearly all Senate Democrats. BUT IT WILL HAPPEN ONLY IF ALL OF YOU DO WHAT YOU DID IN APRIL AND MAY.
There are a lot more of YOU than there used to be.
Last Saturday, our Activist Membership crossed the 200,000 mark! That means we have almost 100,000 more of you working together in this cause than we had last December when we pressured for toughening amendments to the House-passed H.R. 4437.
Action No. 1: Send all the faxes that have accumulated on your Action Buffet corkboard.
We can tell from the number of faxes that have been ordered over the last two weeks that many of you have taken a much-deserved break from activism and not been sending the new faxes we have posted on your customized corkboard.
Please go now to:
www.NumbersUSA.com/actionbuffet
Action No. 2: Tell us when and where your Senators and Representative are holding town hall meetings
You should see a thumb-tacked note on your corkboard asking for this information. When you click on the note, you will go to a page that will give you good instructions for how to track down this information.
There is no central place to find out when and where Members of Congress expose themselves to the voters. In fact, they try to keep it as secret as possible because they don't really want to have to hear directly from you.
That is why the town hall meeting part of our Action Buffet is so very important.
NumbersUSA doesn't have the staff to dig out potential meetings of all 535 Members of Congress. We MUST rely on you to send us that info on your own Members so we can share with everybody else from your state and District.
Click on corkboard note to send us town hall meeting information
Action No. 3: Attend any meeting or event where your Senators or Representative are expected to appear
Nothing you do will be as powerful as attending in person one of the events where your Members of Congress appears, and then asking a question or making a statement about immigration -- or even holding up a sign giving your view on immigration -- or applauding another voter who expresses your opinion on immigration.
You all have become great faxers and phoners. But we must have many, many more of you personally confronting the Members of Congress -- especially the ones who have Immigration Grades ranging from F-minus to B.
See your Members' immigration grades at:
www.CongressGrades.org
If you see a thumb-tacked note on your corkboard that announces a meeting of one of your Members of Congress, PLEASE LOOK AT IT -- and make plans to attend.
Get some friends to go with you to ensure that you will have a cheering section.
And be sure to use the feedback devices on our page that allow you to easily let us know you are planning to attend and to give us a report when you return.
Action No. 4: Call some friends or let us know that you plan to visit the local office of your Representative or one of your Senators next week
These Members of Congress must have voters in their local offices putting the pressure on their staffs to block the Senate amnesty and immigration increases.
If you are interested in doing this but don't want to go alone, send us an email through our Help Desk form and we will put you in touch with other people in your area who are trying to make a trip.
PLEASE NOTE: We have a new way of your communicating to us in which you cannot just hit REPLY to our Alerts anymore.
We are not trying to make things difficult for you. But with 200,000 members, our staff simply has not been able to keep up with your emails. We have hired two interns for the summer to help Jon and Jeremy. But we also must create a better system of categories if we are to provide the level of service we once did.
So, you should always communicate with us by:
(a) clicking on the CONTACT US link in the navigation bar at the top of our web pages. That takes you to the HELP FORM link.
(b) or putting this address in your directory and regularly using it:
www.numbersusa.com/helpform
On the Help Form page, you choose the category in which you are writing and send us an email that way.
Thousands of people have already started using this form in the last month, and it is accelerating our ability to respond.
======================================
Thanks for jumping into this TODAY before you move into your weekend family and recreation activities.
Then, please, plan to do something Monday and during the rest of the week.
We will be sending you additional guidance on how best to stop the amnesty -- or at least keep it from passing this month. The longer we can delay this, the better our chances are of winning.
Thank you,
-- ROY
Believe me, if we don't speak up, no one is going to do it for us. People like me with 02 priority dates are going to wait atleast two more years, folks who filed in 05 may get to wait 5+ years for their GC. This is the way things look currently.
The Illegals like the Chamber of Commerce, the big lobby Ag, Hotel/Travel, Construction, Meat-Packing, Industries, the Catholic Church and big ethic lobbies like MALDEF, La Raza, besides millions of hispanic votes.
The other side also has the power of millions of votes and a LOUD VOICE.
We have nothing compared to them. You can see we are small fish...that is why we need to do all we can to make ourselves heard.
=========
From: Roy Beck <ImmigrationInfo@numbersusa.com> Add to Address Book
Date: 2006/06/09 Fri PM 02:15:30 EDT
Subject: Time to turn up the heat on Congress
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From: Roy Beck, President, NumbersUSA
Date: Friday 9JUN06 9:30 a.m. EDT
Please take some actions today .... and prepare for many more actions next week
DEAR SUPPORTERS OF LOWER OVERALL IMMIGRATION,
Thanks to all of you who -- in the two weeks since the Senate voted for a massive immigration increase and amnesty -- have been regularly checking your Action Buffet for new actions and who have been responding to the several Fax Alerts that we have sent you.
Now, it is time to really start turning up the heat again.
I'm asking each one of you to do at least one of the following TODAY.
Members of Congress are feeling great pressure from our side, but we must really escalate that pressure if we are to totally block all the immigration increases in the Senate bill. Thus far, the Republican majority in the House of Representatives has stood firm against the national Republican Party leaders and President Bush. We have a lot of hope that the House can hold the line against the amnesty/open borders plan of President Bush, the Republican National Committee and nearly all Senate Democrats. BUT IT WILL HAPPEN ONLY IF ALL OF YOU DO WHAT YOU DID IN APRIL AND MAY.
There are a lot more of YOU than there used to be.
Last Saturday, our Activist Membership crossed the 200,000 mark! That means we have almost 100,000 more of you working together in this cause than we had last December when we pressured for toughening amendments to the House-passed H.R. 4437.
Action No. 1: Send all the faxes that have accumulated on your Action Buffet corkboard.
We can tell from the number of faxes that have been ordered over the last two weeks that many of you have taken a much-deserved break from activism and not been sending the new faxes we have posted on your customized corkboard.
Please go now to:
www.NumbersUSA.com/actionbuffet
Action No. 2: Tell us when and where your Senators and Representative are holding town hall meetings
You should see a thumb-tacked note on your corkboard asking for this information. When you click on the note, you will go to a page that will give you good instructions for how to track down this information.
There is no central place to find out when and where Members of Congress expose themselves to the voters. In fact, they try to keep it as secret as possible because they don't really want to have to hear directly from you.
That is why the town hall meeting part of our Action Buffet is so very important.
NumbersUSA doesn't have the staff to dig out potential meetings of all 535 Members of Congress. We MUST rely on you to send us that info on your own Members so we can share with everybody else from your state and District.
Click on corkboard note to send us town hall meeting information
Action No. 3: Attend any meeting or event where your Senators or Representative are expected to appear
Nothing you do will be as powerful as attending in person one of the events where your Members of Congress appears, and then asking a question or making a statement about immigration -- or even holding up a sign giving your view on immigration -- or applauding another voter who expresses your opinion on immigration.
You all have become great faxers and phoners. But we must have many, many more of you personally confronting the Members of Congress -- especially the ones who have Immigration Grades ranging from F-minus to B.
See your Members' immigration grades at:
www.CongressGrades.org
If you see a thumb-tacked note on your corkboard that announces a meeting of one of your Members of Congress, PLEASE LOOK AT IT -- and make plans to attend.
Get some friends to go with you to ensure that you will have a cheering section.
And be sure to use the feedback devices on our page that allow you to easily let us know you are planning to attend and to give us a report when you return.
Action No. 4: Call some friends or let us know that you plan to visit the local office of your Representative or one of your Senators next week
These Members of Congress must have voters in their local offices putting the pressure on their staffs to block the Senate amnesty and immigration increases.
If you are interested in doing this but don't want to go alone, send us an email through our Help Desk form and we will put you in touch with other people in your area who are trying to make a trip.
PLEASE NOTE: We have a new way of your communicating to us in which you cannot just hit REPLY to our Alerts anymore.
We are not trying to make things difficult for you. But with 200,000 members, our staff simply has not been able to keep up with your emails. We have hired two interns for the summer to help Jon and Jeremy. But we also must create a better system of categories if we are to provide the level of service we once did.
So, you should always communicate with us by:
(a) clicking on the CONTACT US link in the navigation bar at the top of our web pages. That takes you to the HELP FORM link.
(b) or putting this address in your directory and regularly using it:
www.numbersusa.com/helpform
On the Help Form page, you choose the category in which you are writing and send us an email that way.
Thousands of people have already started using this form in the last month, and it is accelerating our ability to respond.
======================================
Thanks for jumping into this TODAY before you move into your weekend family and recreation activities.
Then, please, plan to do something Monday and during the rest of the week.
We will be sending you additional guidance on how best to stop the amnesty -- or at least keep it from passing this month. The longer we can delay this, the better our chances are of winning.
Thank you,
-- ROY
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02-23 10:59 PM
Case reopened or reconsidered based on USCIS determination, and the case is now pendiDid anyone see this kind of status on their approved H1b application?
Please share your views.
Please share your views.
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freeskier89
02-08 06:22 PM
Voters: 89
freeskier89
Suspicious. :P
Anyways, yay. haha!! This poll was rigged from the start! :P Just kidding of course. Congrats everyone
freeskier89
Suspicious. :P
Anyways, yay. haha!! This poll was rigged from the start! :P Just kidding of course. Congrats everyone
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validIV
03-17 04:36 PM
I don't remember immi status even coming up during mortgage appli!
It comes up on the loan application when it asks if you are a US Citizen.
It comes up on the loan application when it asks if you are a US Citizen.
validIV
03-17 12:34 PM
Both EAD and H1-B are fine. I am on EAD/AP whereas my wife is on H1-B. We dont have any issues and the banks will recognize both. We use JP Morgan Chase.
bikram_das_in
04-20 10:54 AM
One may choose to sleepwalk with this complex (superiority?) that I am not one of them, but the reality on the ground is different. Our cause is hostage to bitter politics and guess what the only way at this point in time we can possibly achieve our goal by playing the politics right.
BTW in politics right or wrong is rarely a consideration.
I donot encourage IV'ans to participate in this march.
It means Join hands with Illegals for noreason.
No matter "how" loud / "what" you scream in this march it will be heard as "give amnesty".
BTW in politics right or wrong is rarely a consideration.
I donot encourage IV'ans to participate in this march.
It means Join hands with Illegals for noreason.
No matter "how" loud / "what" you scream in this march it will be heard as "give amnesty".
